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mtlynchtoday at 1:44 AM3 repliesview on HN

That's missing the point.

Ultimately, companies who use H1B visas will outcompete companies who don't because the H1B system gives them cheaper labor costs. The solution has to come at the regulatory level.

150 years ago, if you told someone "oh if you want safer factories just build one yourself," that business would never survive because they'd get outcompeted by the less scrupulous factory owners who were happy to mangle their employees and just replace them with more desperate workers.


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fookertoday at 2:01 AM

Your factory analogy is great because that's exactly how it happened and we outsourced everything to China.

It's significantly easier to outsource white collar work.

And you can keep playing the regulation game until there are no companies left.

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thesmtsolver2today at 2:10 AM

You can apply the same argument for illegal immigration and import from countries like China which flout labor and environmental standards.

But people who oppose H1B don’t seem opposed to that.

subhobrototoday at 3:03 AM

> Ultimately, companies who use H1B visas will outcompete companies who don't because the H1B system gives them cheaper labor costs. The solution has to come at the regulatory level.

I have utmost respect of your work, a customer of your fantastic product and have been meaning to reach out to you for a while (infact I learned about Cory from your blog in 2021) but I had to push back hard on this.

TinyPilot didn't happen in India nor China. I can argue it would have been cheaper to build it at any one of those countries but you know much better about it than I.

Labor costs only matter when you're selling an absolute commodity that has no edge than price.

Of all the people I would have expected to say that the solution has to come at the regulatory level given the experience, success you've had, with your transparency in how your company was doing, I am utterly surprised it was you.

I am more than happy to continue, reached out - I just wish our initial email would have been way more pleasant!