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whatever1today at 10:06 AM1 replyview on HN

Does Azure/AWS/Google/FB sell as well in China as well it does in the EU?

They sell close to 0. Europe made a conscious decision to not limit the reach of the infinite margin US companies.

The deal was we buy your fancy services and expensive war toys, but you keep us safe.

America forgot its obligation. Hence the deal is off.

Now VW is making war machines and Airbus is building AI infra.


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ETH_starttoday at 10:39 AM

Even if US companies only had the US market, they'd be massive — Google gets ~50% of its revenue from the US alone, Amazon over 60% from North America, and most other Big Tech is in that same range. The US market by itself is plenty huge. And the EU provides 20-30% of US Big Tech revenue. Even losing all of that (very unlikely even under protectionist policies), US tech companies would be doing well, with 70-80% of their current revenue.

Sure, full-blown protectionism everywhere would make the world including the US poorer (less specialization, less division of labor), but it would also harm EU exports, as the US is the EU's biggest importer, and moreover it wouldn't change the factors behind the growing US-EU gap. US-EU trade policies with each other are basically the same. The difference is internal, and mostly comes down to the US just not sabotaging the private sector as much.