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algo_traderyesterday at 6:38 PM3 repliesview on HN

> practical voltage for a DC grid using early electrical machinery is around 2 kV.

What is a current (pun!) practical limit?

If a 100MW PV farm and a data center are separated by 1km (20 Olympic pools) - is there a way to avoid AC?

I know there are future solutions [1]

[1] https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/07/former-tesla-exec-drew-bag...


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analog31yesterday at 7:23 PM

The early limit was because high voltage DC required producing it at the generator, whereas you could produce high voltage AC by generating at a lower voltage and then stepping it up with a transformer for long distance transmission.

The rules are changing because of switchmode voltage conversion, using transistors to switch the voltage at a high frequency, where the magnetics (transformers, inductors) can be much smaller and more efficient, then converting back to DC. This is how virtually all smaller power supplies have been made for years, the only question (which I don't know) being how far along we are at reaching the voltage levels of long distance transmission in this way.

I'd think that hustling us towards DC with electronic voltage conversion would be a reasonable strategic goal for dealing with the transformer problem, worthy of support by a government.

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nerdralphyesterday at 10:12 PM

HVDC transmission over 100kV lines are common now. https://www.emeranl.com/maritime-link/overview

lstoddyesterday at 7:34 PM

That link talks about 5MW 35kv AC / 800v DC converters.. completely different thing, they try to sell a single-source PV invertor-to-35KV AC solution first, then 35KV to 800V DC second, to have a sorta complete solution of PV-to-datacenter. And it's only 5MW. And only 35KV AC. For moving 100MW even over a few km you would need 110KV at least. I think. An overhead wire can handle about 600A of current, that's the physical limit and the reason for kilovolts there.

Consider also that there is nothing existing in transmission and switching gear certified for HVDC it being rare one-off projects so far, while AC is ubiquitious, more-or-less mass-produced and many people are trained in its maintenance.