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vrganjyesterday at 3:14 PM2 repliesview on HN

No matter who controls the US in the future, it will never go back to the position it once had globally.

It's been actively harming it's allies, threatening them with invasion and conspiring with their enemies.

The rest of the world cannot afford to give the American people the benefit of the doubt.

After Trump I, there was hope it was just a fluke. Trump II is much worse and cements the unreliability of the American voting public.


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nozzlegearyesterday at 3:40 PM

Never is a long time. Look at where Germany was after both WWI and WWII, and where it is now; it's demonstrably possible to cause irreparable damage to everyone around you, and then rise back to the top (multiple times!). The only questions are timeline and scale.

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bdbdbdbyesterday at 3:53 PM

This. We all thought Trump was a crazy accident but the fact that he almost beat Biden, and then did beat Harris, means we just can't trust Americans to put sensible people in charge. Assuming a democrat takes the office next, they will inherit an economy in tatters, a failing infrastructure and a broken strategic alliance. They'll have four years to try to fix all of that while the republicans blame them for everything they've inherited, and four years from that the American people will have largely forgotten how Trump and his minions trailed dog shit all through the house and they'll vote for the next right wing dick that's been groomed for the job - probably Pete Hegseth, or Don Jr, or Mark Wayne Mullin

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