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harrallyesterday at 10:55 PM2 repliesview on HN

This article gets ahead of itself.

The issue isn’t the splitting. There is no fiber to even split in most places. A lot of places in America had their “network” infra built 50-100 years ago on copper and no one wants to pay to basically rebuild all of it.

I happen to live in an area where there are still above ground utilities.

We got >5 gig fiber fast. We have 700Mbps 5G. I literally watched them string the fiber on the poles.

It’s still not shared, but it’s fast because it’s new. Shared would be preferred, but you need destroy + “new” first, and most people are fine with what copper gives them. Shared may even be cheaper but most people don’t think we need to rebuild anything.


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eqvinoxtoday at 3:46 AM

> A lot of places in America had their “network” infra built 50-100 years ago on copper

That's no different to Switzerland so far…

> and no one wants to pay to basically rebuild all of it.

…but the Swiss seem to have decided it's worth the investment.

> I happen to live in an area where there are still above ground utilities.

If anything, that can make things cheaper. You don't need to bury everything, and in some places (e.g. earthquake prone Japan) it's really counterproductive. But even if it isn't, it's certainly more expensive.

Sent from a 25G internet connection. My laptop only has 10G via TB though.

martinaldtoday at 1:01 AM

I'ts almost certainly shared. 99% of FTTH is (X)G(S)-PON which shares the fibre over a few properties. Usually something like 32 max.

The Swiss use point to point fibre (there are a few small pockets of this elsewhere). But in reality it is very hard to saturate. XGSPON has 10G/10G shared between the node. GPON has 2.4gbit down/1.2gbit up shared across the node.

In reality point to point is not really a benefit in 99.99% of scenarios, residential internet use cannot saturate 10G/10G for long, even with many 'heavy' internet users (most users can't really get more than >1gig internally over WiFi to start with).

And if it is a problem there is now 50G-PON which can run side by side, so you just add more bandwidth that way.

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