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Ferret7446today at 2:46 AM7 repliesview on HN

That was always the "winning game". Only problem is that's a lot of work. The more things change, the more they stay the same; if you want more money, work harder. People who don't want to work harder complain that other people make more money because they either don't understand or are in denial about the amount of work the people they envy put in.

Yes there are exceptions. No pointing out exceptions won't help you, though it might make you temporarily feel better about yourself.


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saghmtoday at 5:59 AM

The elephant in the room is health insurance. We have a system where even if you have a fairly good income, buying insurance as an individual (or as a small company that isn't buying in a volume high enough for insurance companies to want to give you a discount) means that you'll in all likelihood be paying a lot more for a lot less coverage. The ACA attempted to solve this by having insurance companies offer plans on "public exchanges" by state and then subsidizing the costs, but because most people making good money get insurance through a job with benefits rather than buying it directly, in practice there aren't really any options on the public exchanges calibrated for people with high incomes. (Plus, if you live in a red state, they've likely refused to take the subsidies, which means either the prices are higher or the plans are even more meager based on what the insurance companies expect people without benefits through employment to be able to afford, or both).

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mememememememotoday at 4:10 AM

Define work harder. I think it is worth defining as it is ambiguous and could mean one or more of:

1. Longer hours at work

2. Same hours working but adding time learning

3. Ruthless optimization of time at work.

4. Working smarter (which probably means learning new skills).

5. Doing stuff that makes you uncomfortable. E.g. honest feedback, applying 2 levels above current, hand up to lead messy project etc.

kaashiftoday at 7:49 AM

I don't pay my employees based on inputs like how hard they work, I pay based on outputs.

Any other system of incentives would be insane.

Things are different if you're e.g. a lawyer and have billable hours.

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3eb7988a1663today at 5:08 AM

You can be the hardest working burger flipper at McDonald's, but you are not going to be as financially secure as someone coasting on a FAANG salary.

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ralph84today at 4:25 AM

Work harder on the right things. Digging holes in your backyard with a shovel is hard work but nobody is going to pay you for it.

afavourtoday at 4:15 AM

In software engineering it isn’t necessarily the winning game. FAANG salary vs self employed isn’t that a case of “work hard and it’ll come”.

vkoutoday at 7:11 AM

> People who don't want to work harder complain that other people make more money because they either don't understand or are in denial about the amount of work the people they envy put in.

I assure you, I have never in my life worked 20 times harder than someone making minimum wage.