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AndrewKemendoyesterday at 4:20 PM2 repliesview on HN

If someone is continuing to put themselves into situations and contexts where they are overloaded with propaganda, then that indicates they lack a core level of discernment

The idea that people cannot have agency while being subjected to propaganda is totally fucking absurd and demonstrably not true

there are millions of examples of people who can discern propaganda and make decisions based on ground truth data


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pixl97yesterday at 5:33 PM

>put themselves into situations and contexts where they are overloaded with propaganda,

Ah, yes, most of us are independently wealthy and have the financial freedom to avoid working in lobbies blasting fox news all day.

Yes, people can have agency if they choose to, most choose not to because it takes a massive fuckton of energy to do so. But you created society all by yourself from first principles right? Oh you didn't.

The thing is, especially in the modern world with so much media everywhere all the time, we are being subjected to propaganda in nearly everything we do. News, advertizing, lifestyle, all are imbued with propaganda. Some of it's obvious to you and you can quickly discount it. Other parts of it are something you've grown up with and you don't even have the first clue that it is propaganda.

Simply put your feeble human mind cannot comprehend nor perceive the ground truth of all reality and therefore we're subject to the biased and filtered information we receive from others.

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don_estebanyesterday at 6:01 PM

For sure, there are plenty of such people. They are still very small minority.

Almost everybody I know has a tendency to not overly check the statements that broadly align with their world view, and be dismissive (as propaganda, without doing the work to check the ground truth data) of statements that are contrary.