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plastic-enjoyertoday at 12:43 PM1 replyview on HN

No, he did not and it would be good if people would have _actually_ read Plato's Phaedrus before regurgitating the same nonsense every time someone has a critical perspective on LLM writings.


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Brendinoootoday at 1:14 PM

Are you just trying to be a bit more measured by saying he wasn't so much "opposing" as "articulating pros and cons"?

Or are you trying to say that things like

"this discovery of yours will create forgetfulness in the learners' souls, because they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written characters and not remember of themselves"

or

"You would imagine that [written speeches] had intelligence, but if you want to know anything and put a question to one of them, the speaker always gives one unvarying answer. And when they have been once written down they are tumbled about anywhere among those who may or may not understand them, and know not to whom they should reply, to whom not: and, if they are maltreated or abused, they have no parent to protect them; and they cannot protect or defend themselves."

aren't actual statements of opposition, or that there are no parallels to that and LLMs?

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