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AnimalMuppetyesterday at 12:44 AM3 repliesview on HN

No, what I think it really tells you is that these just Iran's proposal. So far as I know, the US (and Israel) have not actually agreed to these.

I've seen several posts here saying that they have, but what I haven't seen is any evidence or links. Until I do, I reserve the right to believe that the US has not actually agreed to Iran's plan.

But my (grandparent) post was off. If these are Iran's proposed points, of course they're going to say that Israel stops attacking Hezbullah but that Iran is free to keep arming them.


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halflifeyesterday at 12:55 AM

It’s amazing to me to see the amount of people willfully ignorant in this war, and having extremely short memory.

In June we had the 12th day war with Iran, it also ended with a ceasefire which continued to negotiations which collapsed and here we are.

Now, a ceasefire again, and people already claiming that Iran has won and trump accepted their demands.

I’ve seen people saying at first that Iran didnt agree to the ceasefire and then saying that they won’t open the strait. Completely oblivious people.

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chasd00yesterday at 1:03 AM

If they would read the actual news the ceasefire is contingent on immediate opening of the strait. That’s the deal, open the strait and the bombing stops while we negotiate over the next two weeks.

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bigyabaiyesterday at 12:53 AM

By that logic, the US and Israel should have never offered a ceasefire and stuck to the regime change narrative. Accepting a ceasefire shows that America was never serious about controlling the Strait, and passes the initiative back to the Iran/China axis instead of straining it through a joint blockade. The tactics make zero sense, considering the objectives laid out at the start.

It's been weeks of war, America should have something to show for it. Right now, Iran has successfully used America's offer as a way to muzzle Israel in Lebanon and muster their own strength with Russia and China. Even from a Zionist perspective, this is a terrible result.

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