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wongarsutoday at 3:02 PM5 repliesview on HN

I was under the impression that they were asking for payment in stablecoins, not bitcoin? Did they change their mind?


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Hendriktotoday at 3:12 PM

Given that 99% of stablecoins are USD-denominated, and that the vast, vast majority of those are custodial, Bitcoin makes much more sense for Iran.

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vunderbatoday at 3:23 PM

I’ve heard a lot of discussion about them accepting payments in Chinese yuan. I wonder if there’s a stablecoin pegged to it.

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sunshine-otoday at 5:59 PM

I believe the only stablecoin that is "uncensorable" is the old MakerDAO DAI (pegged to USD with vaults overcollaterised with other tokens). Not sure if there is a lot of liquidity left.

Its successor USDS has implemented all the mechanisms to censor some addresses but if I remember correctly this hasn't been activated yet.

All the other ones: USDC, USDT, EURC and the ruble one can be whipped out easily. So more risky for them than good old dollars.

Please correct me if I missed something.

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wslhtoday at 3:14 PM

That would be very risky for Iran because the top stablecoins could be freezed. They are centralized.

arduanikatoday at 5:25 PM

No. Welcome to the petrobitcoin economy.

Edit: Piecing together from other comments, it sounds like these tolls are denominated in USD ($1 per barrel), but as an implementation detail, they're charging in BTC as the instrument of choice, not a stablecoin.

They phrase the tolls in USD "so the price is stable", and since the whole transaction is quick, BTC entails "just a small carry risk while holding". They sidestep the stablecoin technology, which is "risky for Iran because the top stablecoins could be freezed. They are centralized."

The latter comment was downvoted, possibly for paranoia, but Iran can't afford not to be paranoid. The major stablecoins at least claim to be custodied in Western institutions in a quasi-compliant-ish manner. If the USG started strong-arming Cantor, and so forth, who knows where that would end. Iran would much rather live with a tiny taste of BTC price volatility.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47692874

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47691369

So my read of this is:

- Iran is threading the needle, working within the limited options they have in a US-dominated world economy.

- The death of the petrodollar is slightly exaggerated here, although it's a small symbolic step, and obviously the broader war is going to have implications for US hegemony.