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consoleabletoday at 4:02 AM6 repliesview on HN

Why have Western countries introduced so many laws that look like China’s? The government controls more and more individuals


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thisislife2today at 5:26 AM

The west believes "Data is the new oil". The west can't compete with China or India in the amount of data their citizens can generate because they are the world's most populous country. China already has a huge head start because it has already been collecting and data-mining its citizen's data. Attempts to make stronger privacy laws and sovereign data laws in many western countries will also impede data collections. But state sharing of data - through 5 Eyes, 9 Eyes and 14 Eyes - along with BigTech data could give the west an edge. (The west already has partial access to indian data because it leaks through lax data privacy laws, ill-thought indian government policies and BigTech. But Chinese data is truly firewalled.)

So yes, you are right that we will see our democracies embrace more and more control over us citizens, limiting our rights, while our governments emulate China. This is unfortunately because the west believes that being a leader in technology is essential to retain its powers.

cjs_actoday at 6:48 AM

Every government is preparing for the Third World War, which requires controlling the information infrastructure to enable domestic counterintelligence operations.

pmlnrtoday at 5:46 AM

Because the internet became a shithole.

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betabytoday at 4:04 AM

Because the West no longer competes with USSR.

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01HNNWZ0MV43FFtoday at 5:09 AM

I can only speak for the USA, but the first-past-the-post voting plus a very strong bias towards rural areas and former slave-owner states, results in a government that poorly represents any of its constituents.

I don't know if even right-wingers like this age verification crap, maybe they put up with it from Republicans so they can vote against abortion and I put up with it from Democrats so I can vote for abortion.

Of course, if you vote for a third party, you're spoilering your side. Every country is a group project run by underpaid people to try to please millions of uninformed haters. Still better than dying of dysentery, I guess.

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_3u10today at 5:19 AM

The only western country left is Paraguay, maybe Israel too.

“The west” is now the global north, it’s mostly 3rd world countries dying of old age and going bankrupt in the process.

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