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scoofyyesterday at 7:57 PM4 repliesview on HN

This is exactly the point of part one of Fist Stick Knife Gun: A Personal History of Violence, by Geoffrey Canada. Unequal or lack of access to the executive branch of government will create a culture of vigilantism and lends itself to organized crime as a replacement for the policing arm of the state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fist%2C_Stick%2C_Knife%2C_Gun

People become okay with vigilante justice when they see the executive branch as compromised, just look at the insane plot/ending of the film Singham.

Many people see this happening in the US. We should expect to see more vigilante justice and organized crime if we see the executive branch as having a significant principal-agent problem.


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yfwyesterday at 10:38 PM

We gave up violence and made the state the authority but thats contingent on the social contract being upheld.

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Mezzieyesterday at 11:42 PM

Re: Organized crime.

Organized crime is also going to escalate as the economic squeeze continues to hit white collar workers. Pumping out a bunch of computer science graduates and rendering them unemployable isn't going to lead to all of them giving up and working at Walmart. A certain amount are going to figure out that they can make a better living by going black hat. Likewise for all the office managers, etc. who are put out of a job as belts tighten. Threatening the livelihoods of people who were led to expect a certain standard of living and who can organize and exploit systems is exactly how you end up with organized crime. Doubly so when the burden is falling on the young, who have more appetite for risky decisions.

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spaghetdefectsyesterday at 10:36 PM

I wonder how much the complete impunity of those involved with Jeffery Epstein has destroyed the faith in the executive branch? People like Leon Black, Les Wexner and a couple of presidents not only escaped justice, but pretty much any scrutiny by any institution, media included. I think it's hard for people to look at that and not think they need to take the law into their own hands.

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sumedhyesterday at 10:51 PM

> just look at the insane plot/ending of the film Singham.

What does that even mean?

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