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watwutlast Monday at 4:57 PM3 repliesview on HN

First, Hungary is not a "a bit of a flip flop in terms of democracy". They are just not fully democratic country anymore, full stop. The system there did not changed, judiciary, media and the rest of the country are as much in the hands of a leader and easy to be abused as yesterday. The person on top of it changed. He did promised reforms, it remains to be seen whether they happen or not.

But second, regardless of Hungary, anyone can veto is dysfunctional system.

> unless you want to create a group where everyone thinks the same.

Everyone has veto is literally a system where everyone must think the same, else nothing will happen.

> Removing veto power probably makes it more likely that the next Orban pulls them out of the EU entirely which might not be in the interest of the alliance.

That would be bad for Hungary, but good for the rest of Europe. Hungary presence in EU was damaging to EU for years now.


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dh2022last Monday at 6:12 PM

Ditto. EU would be much better without Hungary. And if on their way out Hungary could leave with Slovakia that would be even better.

_zoltan_last Monday at 6:11 PM

We are fully democratic as shown by outing Orban last night.

Doesn't mean we should just blindly vote with the herd.

redeemanlast Monday at 5:24 PM

> Everyone has veto is literally a system where everyone must think the same, else nothing will happen.

thats not true, it just means that everone must not be extremely opposed to something for it to happen.

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