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tempaccount5050yesterday at 8:25 PM5 repliesview on HN

Not that I support any of these obviously stupid bills but:

> what's special about 3d printers?

They can make guns made out of plastic and metal detectors are kind of the primary way we try to find guns on people.

You are probably right about the lobbying group, I agree.

Edit: I'm not saying it makes sense, but this is the angle the congress folks are taking, sheesh.


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kube-systemyesterday at 8:59 PM

There was a panic about plastic guns back in the 80s too when the Glock came out, and Congress passed the Undetectable Firearms Act.

But it was just as misinformed as it is today -- practically speaking, only metal is suitable for the high pressure components of a gun. A common 9mm cartridge produces upwards of 35,000 psi.

15155yesterday at 8:26 PM

> metal detectors are kind of the primary way we try to find guns on people

What are bullets and shell casings made out of again?

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mvrekicyesterday at 10:19 PM

I don't care how good you are, you cannot 3D print a barrel that will withstand the pressure forces generated by a centerfire round.

horsawlarwayyesterday at 8:44 PM

> They can make guns made out of plastic

So can many, many other things. Hell - something like this will do SO MUCH BETTER than anything I can print:

https://www.mcmaster.com/products/pipe/carbon-fiber-1~/?s=pl...

It's weird because 3d printed plastic is WAY down the list of things I'd prefer to trust handling the explosion from ammunition.

Frankly - even the hobbyist CNC I have is a MUCH better method of creating a plastic gun. FDM printing is not something I'd want to trust in this case, neither is SLA printing in most materials (some of the very high end ones like nylon in a formlabs printer... maybe?).

But my point stands - guns aren't that hard to make, and we aren't trying this legislation with any of the other myriad manufacturing methods. Hell - compare to a potato cannon... (also a plastic gun, btw...)

So what's different about 3d printers?

My hunch is this has fuck-all to do with guns, and a lot to do with something else, because 3d printers ARE different in that they let me manufacturer all sorts of other, much more complex, goods much more easily and cheaply at home.

redsocksfan45yesterday at 9:23 PM

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