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operatingthetantoday at 5:49 AM4 repliesview on HN

I can't count how many times I've seen "agile" projects that were just actually waterfall due to demands from stakeholders.


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t43562today at 5:57 AM

Absolutely! "You're going to do agile .... and this list of features will be ready on September 20th."

"Oh, feature no 32 is going to take months and we realised that users can just...."

"No"

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preroktoday at 5:55 AM

I've seen that too, though I have to say that none of those were as waterfally as the actual waterfall process we used to follow. Back then it was quite literally 0 lines of code until spec (100s of pages) is complete.

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mpweihertoday at 7:41 AM

In most of the industry "Agile" is just "doing waterfall really quickly", and for some reason nobody understands you have to stand during your daily micromanagement meetings.

It's a farce.

codeducktoday at 7:33 AM

Ah yes, the old Agile-as-drunken-waterfall pattern