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Erndobtoday at 6:05 AM2 repliesview on HN

Which also conveniently makes you spend more money on tokens.

With agile, at least no one was charging you for it. Like sure, there’s a cost to the process. But there wasn’t direct agile.com profiting from you.

Meanwhile agentic workflows every solution to the problem is giving more money to the ai companies.

Model is bad? Made more expensive model. Still bad? Here’s an infrastructure that reads huge text files again and again making you consume tokens. Still bad? Here’s a way to easily spin up multiple agents at once so you can delegate work. Still bad? Here’s a new service that will automatically review code. Still bad? Maybe a biggger more expensive model will help.


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f1shytoday at 6:40 AM

>> With agile, at least no one was charging you for it.

Depends. There are companies [1] making loads of money out of it. Charging for certification and imposing the idea that either you are certified, or you are going to fail. They are even eating the lunch of PMI, as PMI (PMBoK) is turning into an Agile manual. Where I work is being expended literally millions per year in Agile.

[1] https://scaledagile.com/what-is-safe/

nailertoday at 8:20 AM

> With agile, at least no one was charging you for it.

Charging people for Agile via his company ThoughtWorks (which sold for 785M) is how Neville Roy Singham made the money to fund far left groups in the US from his base in China.