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sophiabitstoday at 4:28 PM2 repliesview on HN

Purchasing power is probably a better metric in a vacuum, but it's hard to analyze accurately

For example, the comment you're citing is claiming that because minimum wage has increased only 3x over the same period of time in which inflation has eroded the relative value of a dollar by 6x, that wages overall have increased at half the rate of inflation. But minimum wage is a measurement of a minimum, while inflation is a measurement of /average/ price increase so they can't be compared 1:1 in this way.

The housing argument also seems odd. In New Zealand (where I'm from -- I'm not familiar with the US' housing market, so the commenter could be right about that geo!) house prices have increased by far more than 20x since the 70s, but the houses available are of substantially higher quality due to improved regulations (e.g. all newer homes are subject to healthy homes rules which mandate insulation) so just comparing inflation-adjusted home prices vs income doesn't tell the full story

(Aside from that, a whole heap of items like food, electronics, transportation are all both far cheaper AND higher quality today than in the 70s)


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hnlmorgtoday at 5:02 PM

“Higher quality” isn’t an objective measurement though. And it certainly doesn’t matter if the end result is that people cannot afford to buy it.

What I’d be interested to understand is whether changes to materials (be that buildings or home appliances) has caused an increase in the cost to manufacturer.

I’d wager most things have gotten cheaper to produce these days because the same improvements in technology that can be integrated into the product also applies to technology used to reduce the cost to manufacturer. Plus if wages are below inflation then any labour costs would have declined (relatively speaking) in that time too.

queenkjuultoday at 5:25 PM

Modern US houses are made of the cheapest, shittiest, flimsiest materials money can buy. I go out of my way not to live in US housing less than 50 years old.