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d_burfoottoday at 6:18 PM6 repliesview on HN

Many Americans do not realize how much money the US government spends. When you include all three levels, it comes to $32K/person/year [0]. This is much higher than countries that are considered "social democracies" such as Finland, France and Canada. If you look at wealthy blue cities like NYC or SF, the spending is on the order of $50K/p/y, comparable to Norway.

It is not realistic to believe that we can become a nice wholesome European country if we just raise taxes a bit. The extra money will just be squandered and stolen.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_governmen...


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jl6today at 7:02 PM

I think many Americans do not realize how much is spent on debt interest payments, which are a tidy source of income for rich people.

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xeromaltoday at 6:26 PM

Is the amount proportional to the per capita income of the respective countries?

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zahlmantoday at 7:10 PM

> It is not realistic to believe that we can become a nice wholesome European country if we just raise taxes a bit. The extra money will just be squandered and stolen.

Why, in your view, doesn't the same thing happen to them?

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fortran77today at 6:48 PM

> When you include all three levels, it comes to $32K/person/year

Which is why these calculators should tell people who pay less than $32K that they are getting supported by the 5% who pay most of the taxes...

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slgtoday at 7:04 PM

>It is not realistic to believe that we can become a nice wholesome European country if we just raise taxes a bit.

This feels like a strawman. I can't recall ever hearing someone advocate for raising taxes and not changing a single other thing about the government. These ideas are all interconnected and someone advocating for increased taxes very likely has ideas about how spending should change too.

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srslyTrying2hlptoday at 9:03 PM

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