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dzhiurgisyesterday at 10:34 PM2 repliesview on HN

Do people still believe this is the clutch?

I see way more crash compilations from Waymo than Tesla (despite having something like 300k FSD subscribers and over 1M permanent purchasers).

Sure LIDAR can fill like 5% of gaps, but let's not pretend it's the underlying AI model that does the grunt work. Which begs the question why Waymo hasn't scaled nationwide and why cybercab hasn't ramped up yet. Both aren't doing that amazing.


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jerlamtoday at 1:02 AM

Probably selection effect. Tesla owners with FSD are often aware of its shortcomings and will not use it in situations where it wouldn't work, much less post clips of their mistakes online. People seem to agree it works fine on highways where cars travel in consistent patterns.

Waymos are in the exact opposite situation. They only run in busy cities so there are lots of bystanders to take a video of the situation, including the passenger, who has no incentive to hide the issue. Waymos can't revert to a driver in the car when things get tough; they call back to their monitoring center and come to a halt, which draws further attention and mockery.

You cannot assume that online algorithms are giving you a unbiased, neutral view of the world. They are specifically tuned against that.

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fooblasteryesterday at 11:28 PM

Tesla has not pulled the driver. It's just not comparable.

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