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jmyeettoday at 2:52 AM3 repliesview on HN

I want to point out just one example.

There's a guy by the name of Michael Lacey who is popular in Tiktok under the name Comrade Sinque [1]. He spent 21 years in prison. It was a much longer sentence. I'm not sure what happened to get him out much earlier.

What was his crime? Felony murder. Sounds bad, right? So what were the details. At age 19 he and a friend burgled a house. The homeowner killed his friend. That was it.

Many Americans don't realize how this works and how insanely unjust it is. It's called the felony murder doctrine and it is unique to the US. It means that if a felony is being commited and if anyone dies then you, as the felon, can be charged with murder regardless of how they died. In states like Alabama, all burglaries are felonies. So if you and a friend break into a house, the police respond and kill your friend, you can get convicted of murder and sentenced to 30-years in prison.

Not a made up example [2].

Anyway, Comrade Sinque is better read than probably at least 95% of Americans. He is thoughtful and intelligent. He wasn't born a criminal (that's 18th century thinking). He's certainly not low IQ (as some would have you believe criminals all are). No, the issue is material conditions. Poverty and a lack of opportunity.

We probably spent about $1 million convicting and incarcerating him for 21 years. This doesn't really seem like a good investment.

[1]: https://www.tiktok.com/@comrade_sinque

[2]: https://apnews.com/article/felony-murder-officer-shooting-al...


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nomeltoday at 3:02 AM

Convictions/punishment is also meant to be a deterrent.

That one being: don't rob a house in a state with a castle doctrine where the owner is allowed to fucking kill you. If you first hand help someone get killed, you're at fault. Sounds reasonable.

But, I also wish we had far far more deterrents, and far more deaths, when it comes to robbers.

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948382828528today at 6:09 AM

Won't someone think of the burglar on tik tok?

wat10000today at 3:29 AM

I mostly think the US system is too punitive, but I don’t see a problem here. Someone died because of what he did. He did it deliberately and the death was a foreseeable outcome of what he did. I’m not too upset that he spent two decades in prison as a result.