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latexrtoday at 1:19 PM4 repliesview on HN

> Everyone knows they score the lowest on repairability

Tell that to iFixit.

https://www.ifixit.com/repairability/smartphone-repairabilit...

I’d trust their assessment more than a vague “everyone knows”. There’s nothing “everyone knows”.

Should Apple be better at repairability? Absolutely! But let’s criticise accurately and in good faith. When we don’t, points are easily dismissed and no one takes the valid parts seriously.


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neyatoday at 1:37 PM

I'm confused. In the link you shared:

iPhone Air - 7/10 (Provisional)

iPhone 17 Pro - 7/10 (Provisional)

Fairphone 6 - 10/10

HMD Fusion/Skyline - 9/10

> But let’s criticise accurately and in good faith.

Isn't that what the scores above tell (which I brought up in my original comment)?

Plus, this is only for their smartphone line up. What about their headphones and other products? Airpods Pro Max is a 6/10, for example:

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/AirPods+Max+Teardown/139369

Polite reminder that companies don't care about us if we love them or support them or not. Especially online.

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Tade0today at 1:45 PM

> But let’s criticise accurately and in good faith.

Apple pioneered some huge anti-repairability measures like e.g. soldered-in RAM.

Wasn't always that way though. I recall repairing a late 2011 MBP, so contemporary to the first soldered MBAs. Really easy to work on, with the battery held in place with just two triangular screws. That was four years ago and the user is still using it.

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bdcravenstoday at 1:47 PM

In doing an "everyone knows" assessment, you should analyze iFixit scores over time, which is what reputation is built on, rather than a point in time. Additionally, we're talking about Apple as a whole, not just one product. They've had several Macbooks that had scores of 1/10, and the Airpods received a 0/10. Even a recent iPhone had its score reduced from a 7/10 down to a 4:

https://www.ifixit.com/News/82493/we-are-retroactively-dropp...

(I'm a happy Apple user across all of their products, but I have no illusion that they're easily repairable)

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ezsttoday at 1:28 PM

Not op but that's missing the forest for the tree. Those devices are not meant to be e-waste conscious at all, which is the undertone here: you can't replace the battery yourself, you can't expand storage when you need, you can't safely expand their life when they are outside of Apple support period because they are soft and hardware black boxes. Instead, you just buy anew.

True, Apple is no more no less guilty of this than the competition, but they are also not shifting the needle while pretending to do so, with so many untaped opportunities.

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