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u_samayesterday at 2:36 PM3 repliesview on HN

Excited to use 1 prompt and have my whole 5-hour window at 100%. They can keep releasing new ones but if they don't solve their whole token shrinkage and gaslighting it is not gonna be interesting to se.


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lbreakjaiyesterday at 2:44 PM

Solve? You solve a problem, not something you introduced on purpose.

HarHarVeryFunnyyesterday at 3:51 PM

It seems a lot of the problem isn't "token shrinkage" (reducing plan limits), but rather changes they made to prompt caching - things that used to be cached for 1 hour now only being cached for 5 min.

Coding agents rely on prompt caching to avoid burning through tokens - they go to lengths to try to keep context/prompt prefixes constant (arranging non-changing stuff like tool definitions and file content first, variable stuff like new instructions following that) so that prompt caching gets used.

This change to a new tokenizer that generates up to 35% more tokens for the same text input is wild - going to really increase token usage for large text inputs like code.

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fetus8yesterday at 3:27 PM

on Tuesday, with 4.6, I waited for my 5 hour window to reset, asked it to resume, and it burned up all my tokens for the next 5 hour window and ran for less than 10 seconds. I’ve never cancelled a subscription so fast.

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