alt Hacker NewsCodex is HN's darling now because Anthropic lowered rate limits for individuals due to compute constraints. OAI has so few enterprise users they can afford to subsidize compute for this group a lot more than Anthropic.
Eventually once they have more users they'll do the same thing as Anthropic, of course.
It's all a transparent PR play and it's kind of absurd to see the X/HN crowd fall for it hook, line, and sinker.
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Call it fall for it, but here are my two experiences, with both applications open. ($20/month plan for both)
- Claude: Good for ~20 minutes of work once every 4 hours
- Codex: Good for however long I want to use it.
> because Anthropic lowered rate limits for individuals due to compute constraints
It's because they don't support OpenCode.
There's a systematic marketing campaign from oai on reddit and HN - there's a huge uptick of "codex is better than claude code" comments and posts this last week which is perfectly timed with the claude code increased limits
So Anthropic degraded their product. OAI updated their product to meet for exceeded Anthropic old product.
This is normal behavior and not a cause for such a hyperbolic response.
And hopefully Anthropic has extra capacity then and I can return there.
Thinking in counterfactuals, how would the hype around Codex would be different if it was organic and because they had built a genuinely good product? Asking as someone who genuinely loves Codex and has been in the OpenAI camp for months after buying a Claude Max plan from November to February.
Codex is much worse than Anthropics model. My experience is that I burn 10x the tokens using Codex compared to Sonnet 4.6
This is true. But Anthropic did us dirty most recently and so it’s their turn on the pitch fork. Sam will do us too. Just not yet.
everyone seems to unconditionally love anthropic, but openai has always had the best models… it just requires a bit more effort on behalf of the user to actually leverage it.
There was brief consternation when OpenAI swooped in to snatch up those DoD contracts but then the next model released and all is forgiven.
Not only that, but anthropic is now forcing users to give their biometric information to palantir
They're doing a slow rollout
Competition is bad? Who cares - let the big players subsidize and compete between each other. That's what we want. We want strong models at a low price, and we'll hype up whoever is doing it.
Simultaneously, we also hype up the open models that are catching up. That are significantly more discounted, that also put pressure on the big players and keep them in check.
People aren't falling for PR; people are encouraging the PR to put pressure on the competition. It's not that hard.