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US Bill Mandates On-Device Age Verification

73 pointsby ronsortoday at 2:50 AM23 commentsview on HN

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xt00today at 4:19 AM

Do we know who is funding this? is this one of these things where Meta doesn't want the responsibility for this, so they are pushing to have the OS have the responsibility or something like that?

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Dwedittoday at 4:58 AM

People lend phones or computers to kids. The age associated with the user account means absolutely nothing.

jmhollatoday at 6:12 AM

So this bill creates a commission to ensure that the information cannot be stolen or breached from operating systems, but says nothing about how the applications querying this information must protect or leverage it. I basically requires that any application get to know a user's birthday, as long as it's "necessary". What a fucking joke! I'm so sick and tired of this bullshit.

Direct link to the bill: https://docs.reclaimthenet.org/parents-decide-act-os-age-ver...

Edit: Oh, and the commission gets to make up the rules on how ages should be verified. So, prepare for a whole other level of PII leakage that isn't even captured by the text of the bill.

ChrisArchitecttoday at 6:16 AM

Discussion on the bill source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47772203

AnIrishDucktoday at 6:04 AM

I have a kid. All I want is the ability to put a "there's a baby driving" bumper sticker on their devices. And to have pornhub et al steer around them.

I'd suggest that this is actually a pretty common desire from parents. We don't want to collect your IDs. We don't want to install spyware in your webcams. We do want a way to signal there's a kid driving a device.

This article is long on hyperbole and short on facts. I gave up about six paragraphs in, being far more informed about what the author feared about this legislation than its actual content.

Sure, if it would mandate ID harvesting, I'm against it. If it requires biometric verification, no. But if we can just have a way to put bright orange vests on devices that require special treatment... That doesn't feel invasive to me.

I'd prefer to cut all the "think of the children!" charlatans off at the pass. Your kid got traumatized by some crazy hyper porn? Why the heck didn't you flag their device?

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yabutlivnWoodstoday at 5:52 AM

Tim Apple argued it was a violation of their engineers and managers free speech to make them engineer back doors

Wonder if they will stand up against this on the same grounds

https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/

greyface-today at 5:33 AM

So, who's gearing up to sue the FTC for a declaratory judgment that this is unconstitutional?

ranger_dangertoday at 5:22 AM

That means porn sites won't require me to independently verify my age right? Right?

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abdelhousnitoday at 6:02 AM

All this fake good intent to prevent another TikTok which was the only media which transmited the reality on the ground during the Gaza genocide. And its aftermath in the youth mind and in the University campuses. Fascists and industrialists have to take control, again, of the minds. (See oligarchy's appetite for social and media companies)

vscode-resttoday at 4:33 AM

Writing like this is frankly so exhausting. I don’t think anyone not already in the choir could make it through.

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hackinthebochstoday at 5:35 AM

The breathless fearmongering over an age field on account set up is just completely over-the-top. This is probably the least bad out of all possible ways to implement age checking. The benefit of this is that it can short-circuit support for more onerous age verification. The writing has been on the wall for some time now: the era of completely unrestricted internet is coming to an end. The question is how awful will the new normal be? Legislation like this is a win all around, a complete nothingburger. We should be celebrating it, not fighting it tooth and nail.

The tech crowds utter derangement over this minor mandate is truly a sight to behold.

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