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throwatdem12311yesterday at 9:47 PM7 repliesview on HN

When I did my Computer Science degree the vast majority of courses were 50% final, 30% midterm - even programming exams were hand written, proctored by TAs in class or in the gymnasium - assignments/labs/projects were a small part of your grade but if you didn’t do them the likelihood you’d pass the term exams was pretty darn low.

We already had AI proof education.


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zoom6628today at 2:32 AM

When I did tertiary studies in programming there wasn't AI but we did our programming exams in pencil and paper. The "beneficial" prep we had and I had since high school was using punch cards. And 24h turnaround time for compiles. That really makes you think. And you learn how to desk check even thousand line programs. Intense focus, structuring for readability (to catch typos) and simplicity (catch logic errors) helped enormously. Was not unusual to change hundred lines of code and submit knowing that it wouldn't compile but will throw up the other errors I couldn't find. Our exams would give us 4-6 attempts for clean compile AND correct output. The only space where I experience same challenge now (40+ yrs later) is embedded code. Desktops and web stuff have LSPs and dynamic reloads and interpreted code (not a thing for me when learning) with instant feedback.

Lots of skills from those old days that have been lost/ignored in the pretence of productivity.

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nsyneyesterday at 10:24 PM

I personally dislike placing a heavy emphasis on exams. Assignments/projects have been consistently the most enjoyable and rewarding parts of the courses I've taken so far in university.

It's a shame that they are also way more susceptible to cheating with AI.

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stingraycharlestoday at 1:30 AM

Yeah exactly, I remember having to write Java and C++ by hand in college in the early 2000s. It was also a good test how well you knew the syntax.

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cyberaxtoday at 3:00 AM

Bonus point: even if you use AI to prepare the submission, copying it down by hand will at least force you to _read_ it.

BobbyTables2yesterday at 11:52 PM

Today just teachers walking around during an exam instead of browsing on their phone would do wonders…

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ghighi7878yesterday at 10:39 PM

Writing programs by hand is something I had to do too. Compete waste of time

SamHenryClifftoday at 12:33 AM

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