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twilotoday at 1:56 PM9 repliesview on HN

If a battery can do 1000 cycles and remain above 80% capacity it is exempt from this, which is exactly what Apple implemented a few years ago.

Low cost phones will be most affected.


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proeetoday at 3:59 PM

This could be "fixed" right now by a software update that limits the maximum charge level to 80% of capacity. However, this comes at the cost of how many minutes of runtime your phone can operate.

So manufactures might just responds to this by making your phone heavier with a bigger battery that is being under utilized.

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tim333today at 2:19 PM

I was wondering about that. I lost my iPhone 13 mini the other day, did the find my phone beep thing and got a distant beep from my washing machine which was on wash cycle.

Surprisingly the phone was fine and works fine after a brief rinse under the tap. It must be hard to combine that sort of water resistance with easy user changing.

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Bad_CRCtoday at 2:38 PM

And what about if 4 years they says that they have dettected a problem in your battery? A new battery should fix that but now you cannot do it properly because it could do 1000 cycles.

This same thing happened to Pixels 6a after 500 cycles.

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oybngtoday at 3:44 PM

Is 1000 cycles above 80% even possible without gimping the device like apple does with all its hardware?

loremiumtoday at 3:12 PM

What if they don't? What if there are manufacturer errors? What if they burn your battery with updates along the way?

HunOLtoday at 3:26 PM

Isn't like most of the new phones claim at least 1000 cycles?

mschuster91today at 1:58 PM

> Low cost phones will be most affected.

Not really. Take a 4000 mAh rated cell, advertise it as "rated for 3500 mAh" and that's it.

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Hamukotoday at 2:14 PM

Wish they'd have implemented it before the iPhone 14 Pro launched. I'm at 624 cycles right now and my phone's gone below 80% fucking ages ago.

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raverbashingtoday at 2:01 PM

Funnily enough I've had a "low cost phone" with replaceable batteries (the "old school way")

So it does not seem a big deal