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pzoyesterday at 10:22 PM6 repliesview on HN

I hope Ternus can turn this ship. Apple wasted the last 5 years without any significant innovation/revolution or even without significant evolution. No groundbreaking change from iphone 12 pro in current iphone 17 pro.

Before we had many groundbreaking features that redefined how you use smarphone:

- gps

- flashlight (yes everybody with flashlight in the pocket!)

- front selfie camera + video calls

- compass + accelerometer + gyroscope

- good wide and ultrawide (video) camera

- nfc + apple pay

- fingerprint / faceid

- esim

- magsafe

Now you can have iphone 12 pro and don't miss much from iphone 17 pro.


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ebbiyesterday at 10:31 PM

Every time I see this argument, it comes across as lazy. iPhone (and smartphones in general) are a mature product, so of course it'll be iterative. But you can't compare the camera from the first few iPhones to the latest ones. I certainly didn't expect, when the first iPhone launched, that the camera on an iPhone would replace my dedicated camera for 90% of my use cases.

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cheschiretoday at 1:19 AM

The Vision Pro was a big bet that failed. But they tried.

chatmastayesterday at 10:40 PM

What about Apple Silicon?

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ValentineCyesterday at 11:23 PM

> I hope Ternus can turn this ship. Apple wasted the last 5 years without any significant innovation/revolution or even without significant evolution. No groundbreaking change from iphone 12 pro in current iphone 17 pro.

I daresay the iPhone 17 Pro is a compelling enough upgrade, hardware wise. Not much innovation, but their phone hardware is very usable.

But I'd prefer if Apple gave up 2 years of trying to "innovate" nonsense like Liquid glAss and polish up their software first, just like the old days.

1970-01-01today at 12:41 AM

Don't forget about the Apple Car. 100% of that failed, and Tim spent a decade on it. Quite a bit of attention on here, but it seems we've quickly forgotten all about it since it was never seen.

https://hn.algolia.com/?q=apple+car

n8cpdxtoday at 12:00 AM

I think the satellite connectivity is a pretty big deal and iPhone led with that. Also camera control literally changed how I use the phone.