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iknowstuffyesterday at 6:55 PM3 repliesview on HN

They write their own software. And firmware. Other OEMs can just beg their tier 1/2 suppliers to get their shit together and put components to sleep properly by making windows, drivers, and firmware work well together.

Also things like lpddr5x, ssd controller built into the SoC with cache in unified ram (instead of running a whole ass separate computer with its own ram on an m2 stick) etc


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cogman10yesterday at 7:07 PM

This is it.

Sleep is such a finicky thing which requires all parts of the system to do it right.

My desktop lost the ability to sleep because I guess the nvidia drivers have decided that you are wrong to want to put things to sleep.

trelaneyesterday at 7:38 PM

Exactly. This is precisely why I stopped buying Windows computers and started buying System76. Well that and the support.

Looks like Framework has started heading this direction too, which is nice to see.

jeffbeeyesterday at 7:16 PM

Great point about the storage. That is another place where the repairability meme is really not helping. Moving the storage controller up into the host SoC is a good idea and the PC world should adopt it.

Apple's storage controller is not even a PCIe peripheral internally, so it's saving power and latency cutting out that interface, even when it's active.

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