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SpicyLemonZesttoday at 4:24 AM1 replyview on HN

I don't think L4 autonomy is a pipe dream. Indeed, it exists today and is widely available in the same city you drove your Tesla in. I think it's a pipe dream for Tesla specifically to achieve it, because for bizarre and idiosyncratic reasons Elon Musk won't let them use LiDAR or mount a roof sensor. They've been stuck at L2 for a decade now, and I don't see much reason to think that making that system incrementally more reliable will ever "unlock" L4.


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jamiequinttoday at 4:45 AM

In practice, Tesla on HW4 drives indistinguishably different from Waymo.

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