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slibhbyesterday at 3:40 PM17 repliesview on HN

Just chiming in to say I don't care at all about accessibility and I find it bewildering that every thread sharing some project has a comment like this.


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willchisyesterday at 3:53 PM

People assume that accessibility is all about some small minority of less abled people who can't "read good", but it's a broad category that affects all users. If you build following the guidelines then you end up with a quality product that can be used by people who stumbled upon it while doom-scrolling instead of enjoying their beach vacation. The best analogy I heard was about drop-kerbs/curb-cuts... people wonder why we're catering for a small minority of wheelchair users everywhere and then they have a kid (or wheel luggage from the airport) and realize how great they are.

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corndogeyesterday at 3:46 PM

> I find it bewildering that every thread sharing some project has a comment like this.

Those of us who care that technology be accessible to as many people as possible, such as low vision users, find it relevant. You can ignore it if you wish.

simonwyesterday at 3:49 PM

Just chiming in to say that the idea someone would "not care at all about accessibility" (and openly state as much) is bewildering to me.

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assfaceyesterday at 5:42 PM

> Just chiming in to say I don't care at all about accessibility

See Rawls 'Original Position' on why you should care: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_position

inetknghtyesterday at 3:52 PM

> chiming in to say I don't care at all about accessibility

I hope you remember that well into your adult life.

Your hearing may be lost. Even if you could still read, the website doesn't offer an accurate transcription. You have to rely on someone else (or some other tech) to transcribe. You have to hope their hearing and language skills are good enough for an accurate transcription.

Your vision may be lost. Even if you could still hear, the website doesn't offer an accurate transcription. You have to rely on someone else (or some other tech) to transcribe. You have to hope their reading comprehension and language skills are good enough for an accurate transcription.

Your limbs may be lost. Some apps let you tab around. Some apps make it impossible to find a button until you hover your mouse. Some apps simply don't load unless you press some magic keystrokes. Good luck.

You brought this problem upon yourself, 30 years ago. You brought this problem upon others. People won't care about your problems. Why should they, when you didn't care about theirs?

> I find it bewildering that every thread sharing some project has a comment like this.

Accessibility is legally required and not difficult to add.

Would you deny service to black people? Islamic people? Gay people? Refusing to provide accessibility in your service is no different. You are actively discriminating in a way which could be illegal and certainly is unethical and amoral.

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NewsaHackOyesterday at 4:07 PM

I care about accessibility, but I agree with your sentiment. There is this recurring pattern people have when trying to detract from AI. They realize that saying they dislike AI for economic reasons is not going to garner any sympathy, so they try to hide behind some noble cause. At one point, it was about water use in datacenters. At another point, they become defenders for megacorporations' copyright. Now, they are trying the "AI doesn't cares about accessibility" angle. They are just trying to find some reason that sticks.

nottorpyesterday at 3:46 PM

That's until you want to fill a form and find out it's dark grey text on a different dark grey background so you don't see what you're typing even with 20/20 sight :)

patorjkyesterday at 4:10 PM

There's a whole industry around suing website owners who have websites that aren't accessible. It's kind of messed up. The WSJ did a story on it a while back: https://www.wsj.com/business/entrepreneurship/small-business...

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furyofantaresyesterday at 3:50 PM

Consider not being bewildered that people care about things you don't care about.

postalcoderyesterday at 3:51 PM

Accessibility is a broad umbrella of features that enable a ton of really cool stuff for everybody, not just the disabled. Things like agentic computer use is only possible because of "accessibility".

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satvikpendemyesterday at 3:50 PM

As they say, everyone will eventually become disabled in some form or fashion. When your eyes go due to old age you'll be glad to still be able to use the internet.

IanCalyesterday at 3:50 PM

This seems very weirdly exclusionary to me. Don’t you care at all about the users trying to use your site?

Barbingyesterday at 4:03 PM

TIL slibhb will be young forever

reaperduceryesterday at 3:58 PM

I find it bewildering that every thread sharing some project has a comment like this.

Because Western society functions for the common good. We are not animals fighting for survival in the wilderness.

And because a web site not being accessible is a liability. Target was sued and had to pay millions for having your attitude.

gostsamoyesterday at 3:55 PM

I'm blind and accessibility is important to me. It is extremely disrespectful to see someone who just says "fuck you" and feels good about it. Please, at least consider that the world is bigger than you imagine and there is place for everyone in it and there is no need to be purposefully rude.

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