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Do you want the US to "win" AI?

19 pointsby mefengltoday at 9:41 AM22 commentsview on HN

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mindcrimetoday at 11:16 AM

> Do you want the US to "win" AI?

I don't want any one particular country, or organization, to "win" AI. I want AI capabilities to remain diffuse and spread out, so that everybody has access to approximately equal levels of AI. If anything, you might say that I want "Open Source to win AI".

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sphtoday at 11:17 AM

That investment chart is hilarious and terrifying. You Americans better hope this whole AI thing pans out.

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comrade1234today at 11:12 AM

I usually don't even know what ai I'm using at any one time. It's just a choice in my IDE between a bunch of different models, and I switch models every now and then when the response time slows down too much (usually when the Americans start waking up). I have no loyalty to any one product.

AntiUSAbahtoday at 11:19 AM

What i find interesting is the other article of geohot regarding AGI.

It seems that its financial possible for a handful of companies to learn everything.

It doesn't matter how we solve 'work':

It can be AGI, it can also be the already existing massive global scale Reinforcement Loop we all feed through using ChatGPT and co, it could be to compute RL or by buying experts teaching this knowledge to some AI system.

Companies also start to put the 'human' part into the agentic layer.

A while back anyone was somehow a benefit even if they did some kind of shitty work. Today i don't think this is true anymore. I would prefer to manage some avg ai than a shitty person.

This will and is already disrupting human lives.

happytoexplaintoday at 11:07 AM

He praises a person for careful, nuanced takes, but then links to their writing where the first paragraph contains the sentence, "the human experience of art appreciation is indifferent to the source."

undevelopertoday at 11:16 AM

i cannot believe people take this idiot seriously still. all he does is jerk off about being the coolest guy ever and then openly suck off yarvin while calling himself a progressive. he was aaaalllllll about the US winning the AI war against "foreign adversaries" (his (paraphrased) words) but suddenly when he divines the guy he voted for (after complaining about the stupid poors "51% attacking" (his (paraphrased) words!))) was a professional economy ratfucker he dips to hong kong and gets a citizenship there its alllllll about china. i remember this motherfucker's elon glaze as a self described "elon voter". how is this motherfucker even fucking relevant? i hope the end of his life is without a penny and with no one to remember him. my life is tangibly worse due to epstein-class weirdos like him.

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hiddencosttoday at 11:18 AM

The brain rot required to call the EA people evil while praising the guy that did agree to give the Pentagon autonomous weapons...

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deadbabetoday at 11:14 AM

I don’t want the US to win anything ever again. They are a net negative in this world, obsessed with short term profits. Countries like China with long term objectives are better.

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oulipo2today at 11:06 AM

AI society is going to be:

- you, chained on your sofa, watching ads "tailored-made by AI for you"

- weaponized robots roaming the streets to ensure everyone is "at work" and not "at leisure activities"

- "no need to vote", of course, because "AI already knows what's good for you"...

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chrswtoday at 11:14 AM

I had an indignant gasp reflex when he called Cursor "random AI bubble crap" and I'm just a user.

AntiUSAbahtoday at 11:07 AM

After showing us that these people are willing to vote for Trump twice?

Having people like Peter Thiel over there who thinks daemons exist?

With Elon Musk having all social security numbers and no one cares about that? Or his blant disruption of democracy?

In china people disappear, true, but at least with China you know what you get. With USA its schizophrenia every 4 years and it wouldnt matter to me if suddenly my air travels are no longer possible due to Trump or i have to pay a lot more due to market disruptions.

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rogermungotoday at 10:24 AM

I suppose I'd rather the US wins AI as opposed to, say, China

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fcantournettoday at 11:15 AM

Don't mean to make Americans sad but "the US" doesn't win AI, a few oligarchs win AI (if US companies end up winning).

The question is not US v China, it's Peter Thiel and Elon Musk vs literally anything else (that would be clearly better).

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