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12_throw_awayyesterday at 7:21 PM3 repliesview on HN

Reading this, I was surprised to learn that I now consider the idea of working on old-school conventional weapons almost, like, quaint.

What with all the ways our new military/techno-industrial complex is working to automate murder, surveillance and terror at scale ... it makes me nostalgic for that old-fashioned artisanal state-sanctioned murder, made in small batches by real humans.


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Terr_yesterday at 9:46 PM

That reminds me of a sci-fi quote, where one of the main characters is discussing a murderous antagonist, putting their evil into a broader context:

> "He was just a little villain. An old-fashioned craftsman, making crimes one-off. The really unforgivable acts are committed by calm men in beautiful green silk rooms, who deal death wholesale, by the shipload, without lust, or anger, or desire, or any redeeming emotion to excuse them but cold fear of some pretended future. But the crimes they hope to prevent in that future are imaginary. The ones they commit in the present--they are real."

-- Shards of Honor (1986) by Lois McMaster Bujold

colechristensenyesterday at 7:37 PM

You may have gotten caught up in the hype. It's still intelligence, logistics, bullets, missiles, and airplanes (etc.)

The beginnings of "automated murder" were anti-aircraft weapons that implemented a kind of mechanical computer that beat humans in predicting where aircraft were going to be (you have to shoot at where the plane is going to be when your bullets get there). Look up Norbert Wiener.

For a century it's been automation assisted, none of this is new, it's just been improving consistently. They had UAVs in WWI for gods sake. (flying things without people in them, used in war)

cindyllmyesterday at 8:38 PM

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