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trjordanyesterday at 7:28 PM11 repliesview on HN

It's an honest surprise that this isn't spun as "internal AI efficiency gains." They want the efficiency, of course there's AI component, but they're not pre-claiming victory. Neat.

It's worth remembering that there's an _actual_ underlying economic problem here. Interest rates are up. AI spending is expensive. A dollar invested in a company needs to do _more_ than it did 5 years ago, relative to sitting in treasury bills. And Meta isn't delivering on that right now.

But IMHO: that's no excuse. This is admitting defeat, deciding to push the share price higher while they give up. Meta has the user data, the AI ambitions, the distribution, and the brand.

They could do anything, and the world is re-inventing itself. They're ... laying off people, maximizing profits, and giving up.

Cowards.


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matchbok3yesterday at 7:45 PM

Layoffs are a very normal thing for businesses to do.

There is nothing "cowardly" about it.

Would you rather them never hire them in the first place?

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swader999yesterday at 7:36 PM

I'm guessing a lot of these large companies will have massive layoffs followed by slightly less massive re-hiring in 6 to 18 months.

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ineedasernameyesterday at 8:14 PM

It isn't good optics at the moment, or good politics, for a company to loudly proclaim "we're firing people because of AI taking their jobs".

That doesn't mean that's what happened, it only means that whether or not its true, most companies aren't going to say it. The few that have said anything of the sort have suffered some backlash, and they aren't even as prominent as Meta or Microsoft (which also just announced plans to reduce by ~7% through buybacks, the first in their > 50 years) And this is on top of their decline to ~210,000 employees after 2025 firing of 15,000.

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121789yesterday at 7:37 PM

this seems a little hyperbolic without knowing details. they probably already cut around 5% every year for performance anyway (their performance reviews probably just came out). i could pretty easily see the rest of the reduction being unprofitable businesses like VR that they don't want to invest in anymore, it might not be due to AI at all

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heathrow83829yesterday at 8:17 PM

Literally, what else can they possibly do that hasn't been done? there's just limited opportunity.

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testing22321yesterday at 8:21 PM

> They're ... laying off people, maximizing profits, and giving up. Cowards.

To play devil’s advocate, what they’re doing is not remotely cowardly, it is the entire point of their existence

They have a lever they can pull that will increase profits and the stock price. Why the hell else does a company like Meta even exist? It sure as hell isn’t to provide jobs to meat bags, and anyone that thinks it is needs a very quick lesson about the real world.

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HoldOnAMinuteyesterday at 8:08 PM

Imagine a world where people could just be happy with returns on investments. Even treasury bills.

Can't we all just be happy?

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dist-epochyesterday at 7:45 PM

> It's an honest surprise that this isn't spun as "internal AI efficiency gains."

Meta is working on "personal AI that will empower you". Saying they are firing people because of AI would be a bad marketing move.

nh23423fefeyesterday at 7:42 PM

When is it ok to lay people off?

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ModernMechyesterday at 8:54 PM

Facebook is of course a company that had ONE idea, which wasn't even original - trick people to use the service and then use their data in inappropriate ways. I believe their original business plan was "People just submitted it. I don't know why. They 'trust me'. Dumb fucks."

They scaled that idea, made a lot of money doing it because of course, bought up a bunch of companies who themselves had original and ethical ideas. But they were never allowed to shine brighter or step out of the shadow that is Facebook, who still believes their customers are "dumb fucks". That never changed and Facebook's current customers, employees, shareholders, and targets of acquisitions need to remember that and never kid themselves about who Facebook is.

kitsune1yesterday at 8:13 PM

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