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Different Language Models Learn Similar Number Representations

73 pointsby Anon84today at 2:34 PM31 commentsview on HN

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causaltoday at 3:38 PM

Title is editorialized and needs to be fixed; the paper does not say what this title implies, nor is that the title of the paper.

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ACCount37today at 3:30 PM

The "platonic representation hypothesis" crowd can't stop winning.

Potentially useful for things like innate mathematical operation primitives. A major part of what makes it hard to imbue LLMs with better circuits is that we don't know how to connect them to the model internally, in a way that the model can learn to leverage.

Having an "in" on broadly compatible representations might make things like this easier to pull off.

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zjptoday at 6:15 PM

Different models, similar number representations. Different models for different languages, similar concept representations. They have to learn all of this from human text input, so they're not divining it themselves. It all makes a strong case for universal grammar, IMO.

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matjatoday at 3:36 PM

The eigenvalue distribution looks somewhat similar to Benford's Law - isn't that expected for a human-curated corpus?

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jdonaldsontoday at 3:40 PM

(Pardon the self promotion) Libraries like turnstyle are taking advantage of shared representation across models. Neurosymbolic programming : https://github.com/jdonaldson/turnstyle

dborehamtoday at 3:33 PM

It's going to turn out that emergent states that are the same or similar in different learning systems fed roughly the same training data will be very common. Also predict it will explain much of what people today call "instinct" in animals (and the related behaviors in humans).

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gn_centraltoday at 3:15 PM

Curious if this similarity comes more from the training data or the model architecture itself. Did they look into that?

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fmbbtoday at 5:37 PM

> Language models trained on natural text learn to represent numbers using periodic features with dominant periods at T=2,5,10.

This proves a decimal system is correct. Base twelve numeral systems are clearly unnatural and inefficient.

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