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deadbabetoday at 3:19 PM12 repliesview on HN

Knowing how kids are, they will just snicker and skirt their way around these bans anyway thinking they are some super bad ass. This is mostly symbolic.


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sarchertechtoday at 3:29 PM

Depends on how it’s enforced.

The data we have on bans on underage drinking and smoking show that they work. Some kids will still smoke and drink, but the number is reduced, drunk driving accidents go down, and eventually fewer adults abuse alcohol and smoke cigarettes.

The myth about age limits making it forbidden and attracting more kids to do it is just that it’s a myth. Spend some time looking at the studies. They almost universally show that age limits on drinking and smoking are harm reducing.

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Aurornistoday at 3:31 PM

I always find it entertaining to see the contrast and tech sites between everyone bragging about circumventing internet blocks when they were a kid, then when a story about blocking parts of the internet from kids comes up it’s just assumed that it will work.

Then there’s the contrast between calls for regulating social media for kids followed by the outrage when people realize that 1) products they use are considered social media (Discord, Reddit, Hacker News) and 2) you can’t keep kids out without age checking everyone who uses the product.

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danmaz74today at 3:47 PM

As the father of a girl, having struggled a lot to stop her from TikTok and similar when she was just 9, it would have been so much easier to enforce that if it had been forbidden by law. It's too late for us, but I'm happy that these measures are coming - it would have been good even without age checks.

jvuygbbkuurxtoday at 3:23 PM

Some will do that, but it will hinder the network effects which will be helpful overall. There is at least a good excuse not to be on social media for the ones that didn't really want to anyways, but felt pressured to do so.

Aunchetoday at 3:54 PM

Cigarettes don't get less addictive when they are banned. On the other hand, a kid is less inclined to use social media if most of their friends aren't on it. They're less likely to post a video on TikTok if there is a significant chance it will be removed if it goes viral. Even if the majority of kids continue to use social media, some of them will follow the rules and they can avoid social media without missing out on socialization altogether.

avocabrostoday at 3:26 PM

The ability to enforce a law doesn't mean it shouldn't be a law. No law is followed and enforced 100%.

thinkingtoilettoday at 3:39 PM

People get around the laws of murder. It should still be illegal.

ameliustoday at 3:27 PM

Laws can be normative.

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insane_dreamertoday at 3:27 PM

> This is mostly symbolic.

sure, just like some kids sneak cigarettes; but the vast majority don't. I disagree that it's symbolic.

poszlemtoday at 3:46 PM

We don't need to ban it to literally every kid ever. As long as most of them don't have access the law will be a net positive.

indymiketoday at 3:46 PM

Not really, now the social network can be immune from prosecution by checking the complies with bad regulation box.

hmokiguesstoday at 3:25 PM

I'm okay with that, I remember the "cool kid" at my school who smoked cigarettes and I see today how he turned out later in life. Doesn't mean everyone will do it.