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sunaookamitoday at 4:47 PM6 repliesview on HN

This sudden coordinated worldwide effort to ban social media for kids (hint: it's not because of the kids) needs to stop, it's dangerous and people need to stop being so naive and stop supporting this.


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pjc50today at 4:58 PM

The coordination is incredible. It's been easier to ban kids from social media (and impose id verification at the same time) than it was to ban landmines.

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AnonymousPlanettoday at 5:55 PM

Seeing how surprisingly similar the wording and definitions are in every case, in even far flung societies, can send you a shiver down the spine. It's like someone gained unfettered world wide write access to legislation.

It's also interesting how Windows 11 with it's hard dependency on TPM hardware just happens to be in place at the right time. And how a certain former Microsoft employee just happened to start working on a similar solution for Linux before this all started https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46784572

nonethewisertoday at 5:08 PM

Speak for yourself. I want it banned for kids.

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ben_wtoday at 6:04 PM

> (hint: it's not because of the kids) needs to stop, it's dangerous and people need to stop being so naive and stop supporting this.

It's partly because of the kids.

It's also because social media is part of the USA's soft power projection, and many of us now consider this to be a threat.

It's also because social media has a long history of manipulation for their own gain, against the users' interests, dark patterns, tracking, they fail to back down from and even file lawsuits to continue tracking when tracking itself required (under GDPR etc.) permission that e.g. Meta did not have: https://9to5mac.com/2021/01/28/report-facebook-building-anti...

For "about the kids", consider: given kids have no direct purchasing power, what adverts can they possibly respond to in a way that actually provides gain for the buyer of the advertising slot? They cannot. Therefore, by fighting for the right to keep kids on their sites (despite the huge extra effort that needs to exist to keep them safe on their sites given the inherent ambient hostility that comes with giving everyone direct access to, in Facebook's case, a few billion other humans), at least one of two things must be true: (a) they think they can get kids hooked, and be able to convert them to profitability as adults, and/or (b) they are scamming the people who buy advertising slots, knowing full well the kids who see the ads cannot possibly buy anything. If a third option exists, I cannot guess it.

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andrewlatoday at 6:55 PM

> hint: it's not because of the kids

Why the silly conspiracy theory? Can't something just be stupid and bad but well-intentioned? You really think lawmakers are involved in some secret cabal that wants to track everyone's activities online? If anything, jurisdictions have shown that they are very interested in preventing the tracking of people's activity online, they just don't know how to do it!

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turtlesdown11today at 5:16 PM

social media should be banned altogether