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lesuoracyesterday at 5:35 PM12 repliesview on HN

Why?

FaceBook largely requires an Apple iPhone, Apple computer, "Microsoft" computer, "Google" phone, or a "Google" computer to use it. At any point one of those companies could cut FaceBook off (ex. [1]).

The Metaverse was a long term goal to get people onto a device (Occulus) that Meta controlled. While I think an AR device is much more useful than VR; I'm not convinced that it's a mistake for Meta to peruse not being beholden to other platforms.

[1]: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/01/facebook-and-google-...


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everforwardyesterday at 6:26 PM

I think this is sane washing their idea in the modern context of it having failed. I think at the time, they thought VR would be the next big thing and wanted to become the dominant player via first mover advantage.

The headsets don’t really make sense to me in the way you’re describing. Phones are omnipresent because it’s a thing you always just have on you. Headsets are large enough that it’s a conscious choice to bring it; they’re closer to a laptop than a phone.

Also, the web interface is like right there staring at them. Any device with a browser can access Facebook like that. Google/Apple/Microsoft can’t mess with that much without causing a huge scene and probably massive antitrust backlash.

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latexryesterday at 5:52 PM

> I'm not convinced that it's a mistake for Meta to peruse not being beholden to other platforms.

Devoid of other context, it’s hard to disagree. But your parent comment only asserted that the metaverse specifically as proposed by Facebook was an obviously stupid idea.

etempletonyesterday at 8:30 PM

Naming your company off a product that doesn't really exist yet and then ultimately fails is a pretty crazy and stupid thing to do. A bit cart before horse.

adrryesterday at 9:58 PM

For the money spent(over $80b), they could have launched a phone or a car. Now their pivot is to smart glasses which require a phone so once again they are beholden to phone manufacturers.

corfordyesterday at 6:04 PM

>Why?

Patrick Boyle did a nice video a few weeks back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BaSBjxNg-M

aucisson_masqueyesterday at 10:28 PM

Good luck using an Oculus in your car or while waiting the bus.

If it was really their goal, they would have made an Android competitor. Maybe a fork like amazon did and sell phones that supported it.

Zuckerberg had one great idea (and then it wasn't really his idea) at the right time, since then he failed over and over at everything else. 'Internet for all', remember ?

I really wouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt.

turtlesdown11yesterday at 5:54 PM

so after $80 billion spent, they must have an ecosystem of hundreds of millions of users? Right?

Maybe they should have spent that on the facebookphone

IshKebabyesterday at 5:44 PM

Because it's been very clear for a long time that the vast majority of people do not want to play VR Second Life.

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lxxpxlxxxxyesterday at 8:38 PM

Can anybody cut meta off? I don't think you could mass market a device with no access to FB, IG or WS.

Maybe a niche product could do it, but good luck selling a laptop that won't open FB

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PKopyesterday at 6:09 PM

Because it's been a massively expensive failure. They can't just will their own platform into existence just because it would be good to have, consumers have a say and they've rejected it completely.