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themafiayesterday at 6:46 PM4 repliesview on HN

> a weird backstory to public opposition to glyphosate which has very little to do with glyphosate itself

Is it required that the public have a "good reason" for wanting something?

> glyphosate is relatively benign and relatively inert compared other common crop and landscape treatments

We used to spray DDT everywhere. This isn't exactly a resounding recommendation. Perhaps there's a case for using as little additives in farming as is possible.


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munk-ayesterday at 10:37 PM

I think this a very unsound place to start an argument. Food production is vital and has been refined over the entirety of human existence to be stable and bountiful. I think it's extremely reasonable to critique Roundup for other reasons - but if you want to blank-slate farming and go with a no-additive solution we're bringing a lot of technology and technique into question that is helpful.

While it's more difficult to formulate on the internet through brief interactions - the correct answer here is nuanced. Somethings are beneficial to farm land productivity and also beneficial to consumers by lowering prices, increasing availability to healthy food etc - and some things are not but might be highly profitable to conglomerates. We need to pick issues like this apart carefully.

FarmerPotatoyesterday at 10:34 PM

> We used to spray DDT everywhere. This isn't exactly a resounding recommendation. Perhaps there's a case for using as little additives in farming as is possible

It's not relevant to glyphosate, but there is such a thing. It's called Integrated Pest Management. I only know it wrt fruit crops. The main idea is to use the least-intrusive methods first, and pesticides last. For example, sanitation comes first: remove last year's debris where larvae and spores have over-wintered.

Glyphosate isn't a pesticide (unless it kills host plants? maybe?)

parineumyesterday at 9:06 PM

> Is it required that the public have a "good reason" for wanting something?

Not required but it's a nice to have, especially if the thing they want done is to have the desired outcome.

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tptacekyesterday at 6:54 PM

No, it isn't. What's your point?

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