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sudobash1yesterday at 11:49 PM16 repliesview on HN

As other commenters here have noted, I found this interesting but a little frustrating. The second color it asks about is clearly cyan (or turquoise). For me, this is like showing an orange screen and asking if it is red or yellow.

I understand that across cultures "orange" does not exist as a distinctly named color (it only got its name in most European languages around the 1500s), but as someone who was trained since preschool that orange is a distinct color, it would feel wrong to "round" it to red or yellow.

I haven't had green-cyan-blue drilled into me the same way as red-orange-yellow. So sometimes I do "round" it. I might note how "green" some cyan river water is, or call something cyan "blue" when it is next to something kelly green. But when I just have a screenfull of pure cyan light, I don't know what else to call it.

As a side note, I do wonder how differently a child would perceive color if they were taught more than 7 colors in preschool.


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Suppaflytoday at 3:44 AM

>As other commenters here have noted, I found this interesting but a little frustrating. The second color it asks about is clearly cyan (or turquoise). For me, this is like showing an orange screen and asking if it is red or yellow.

This, it commonly gets reposted on reddit and the colorblind sub, but it's basically worthless because most people acknowledge that there is a color between blue and green and forcing them to choose one or the other doesn't give you any valuable information.

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harralltoday at 3:53 AM

People are freaking out about this test like it’s some judgement of their character or something. I just picked “green” or “blue” without thinking.

The biggest problem here is that people have wildly uncalibrated monitors that often have color cast tints. I color calibrate my monitors and even my factory calibrated MacBook has a slight green tint.

People should also do hue differentiation tests like this one to see if they have any color deficiency: https://www.xrite.com/hue-test

That’s way more interesting.

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ecshafertoday at 2:25 AM

My daughter was watching Blue's Clues. They were doing color combinations (red + blue = purple, yellow + blue = green, etc). They then also did a further step, blue + green = cyan, and did green + yellow = chartreuse. Now maybe its my male engineer brain, but I haven't heard of that color in 36 years, but it does make sense and it is rather distinct.

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scoofytoday at 12:07 AM

I was having a discussion closely related to this recently because of my background in philosophy of language. Languages are functional, but not rigid. The rules and referents of "blue" become kind of pointless around the edges, and narrow words like cyan or turquoise -- even words borrowed from other languages -- are more functional. This is exaggerated further when the functionality becomes very important, which is where technical jargon starts to come into play. Languages should useful to the speaker; they do not define the constraints of the speaker. "Blue" is useful for the average English speaker, but completely useless for a graphic designer.

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wodenokototoday at 5:26 AM

The whole point is to measure where you draw the line between blue and green, which is going to be in turquoise territory.

When you finish the test it even tells you if you consider turquoise blue or green.

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MichaelDickenstoday at 12:01 AM

Logically I understand that cyan is directly between green and blue, but my brain believes it's 100% blue.

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ImprovedSilencetoday at 12:57 AM

I mean, that's the whole point of this exercise. In reality there is no hard line between green and blue, and if you make someone pick, their line is going to be entirely subjective, and different than others.

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driverdantoday at 12:46 AM

Not only that but once you pick green or blue it's going to skew your results in that direction. I got a higher level of blue as my result but it's only because that's what I picked since I had to pick one of them.

croisillontoday at 5:11 AM

let's be honest, orange is really a burnt yellow

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tshaddoxtoday at 1:49 AM

I’m aware of cyan, of course, but it never occurred to me while doing this quiz, because the point was clearly to choose between blue and green. Of course there’s cyan, turquoise, teal, sky blue, etc., but the point is to make the potentially difficult choice between only blue and green.

Also, as it happens, I feel like cyan is just not really in our everyday vocabulary if you’re assigning colors to everyday objects. Maybe it’s because it’s rare to see something truly that bright and saturated. I feel like in practice I would end up just saying “blue-green” more than cyan, turquoise, teal, etc.

crazygringotoday at 12:20 AM

Came here to say the same thing.

Like, I'd be interested to see if where my boundaries between blue and cyan, or cyan and green, are compared to the rest of the population.

But there's a whole other color between blue and green! A color that is primary under the subtractive CMYK model.

And it's an even bigger difference than with orange, because while red and yellow are 60° apart on the color wheel so that orange is 30° from each, blue and green are a full 120° apart on the color wheel, with cyan being 60° from each. So it's actually even worse -- it's as bad/nonsensical as showing yellow and asking if yellow is red or green.

stainablesteeltoday at 1:26 AM

it's either blue, or it's green. pick a side, coward

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s0rcetoday at 12:22 AM

This was exactly my issue. There was no perception issue I could clearly identify the intermediate color as neither truly blue or green.

moatetoday at 3:15 AM

It's almost like color is a spectrum of light and we just arbitrarily slice it and decide "this has a name" because we are finite being who demand order from things that are not ordered and then demand further order from that order and get REALLY mad.

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oliverpaddocktoday at 12:52 AM

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irishcoffeetoday at 12:02 AM

Taught by whom? I hear parents are wonderful teachers.

Also, lots of kids don't even go to preschool.