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reillysetoday at 5:14 PM4 repliesview on HN

This will be very interesting to observe. Social media is a cesspool and getting worse by the minute. Even hacker news is being inundated with bots. On controversial topics tons of new accounts appear arguing divisively both sides of the argument.

It’s clear that nefarious regimes have won on social media.

It would be interesting to understand the ratio of real human posts to manipulation on twitter for example - I’d imagine it has long ago tipped to majority bot.

Tackling this problem is existential for western democracies. This seems like a reasonable idea. There might be other options (like validated but anonymous) but we have to try something.

It’s worth noting too that many strong western democracies have laws around hate speech and libel that are being broken by anonymous people online - and the citizens of those countries are perfectly happy with those laws.


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armchairhackertoday at 5:29 PM

One country (Greece) with an ineffective law will have negligible impact on the entire internet. Are there popular Greek-only social medias?

More generally, many people spew toxicity under the real name. And there’s already nothing stopping a social media from only allowing verified users.

Hate speech and libel laws have already been misused against people who didn’t actually “hate” or lie. Even if Western democracies are falling, this could make them fall faster, so IMO we should try better ideas first.

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jauntywundrkindtoday at 5:17 PM

It's incredible how much I can agree with you yet still be revolted beyond measure that I'd have to have my every word online tracked by governments. They are fundamentally untrustable agents, with incredible state powers & a monopoly on force that they regularly abuse. Them demanding access to knowing every word that every person writes is not ok.

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rcxdudetoday at 5:16 PM

Facebook's real name policy did nothing to stop it being a cesspool. I don't expect that this will have a positive effect on public discourse.

logicchainstoday at 5:15 PM

>It would be interesting to understand the ratio of real human posts to manipulation on twitter for example - I’d imagine it has long ago tipped to majority bot.

The vast majority of bots are government funded. Banning anonymity will just mean people only see bots funded by their own government and its allies, making it even more one-sided (because their own government will almost certainly still have the ability to make bots, like in Chinese internet).

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