alt Hacker NewsFWIW there are other definitions of intelligence that are wholly immaterial.
Spirits are considered intelligent even though they have no body because they are composed of pure non-physical consciousness. Plants are intelligent even though they also have no brain.
That fundamental sort of living conscious intelligence isn't what I see discussed much in these contexts though.
What you will notice about it though is that unlike frozen LLMs, this type of intelligence also has the capacity to change, interact, and learn from its environment.
If we go with this definition instead, then on a large enough timescale everything can be considered intelligent, even rocks.
>If we go with this definition instead
...Let's not go with the nonsense definitions then.
I agree, systems don't need a brain to be intelligent, and (on a related point:) I don't think systems need to be conscious to be 'intelligent'.
You are excluding this system (llm+harness) that learns (separately), can modify it's surrounding environment via a shell interface (including setting up a nightly training loop to reweight itself based on it's daily actions and interactions) from being intelligent. Do I have that right? Or are you thinking in terms of 'only' the LLM?