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andrewvctoday at 2:08 PM7 repliesview on HN

One of the biggest gaps is that people don't understand that food labels are allowed by the FDA to be off by up to 20% in terms of the number of actual calories!

In the real world you need to calibrate your behavior with the results. Are you gaining weight? You'll need to eat less if you want to lose any. You can do all the math with nutrition labels and macros you want but that's all theoretical.

See this study below for the 20% figure, as well as their experimental results on real food items (some even exceeded this threshold though most were within it). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3605747/?st_source=...


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bonoboTPtoday at 2:14 PM

A large part of the effectiveness in counting calories is that you pay more attention and make more conscious decisions and are less likely to "cheat" if you have to enter it in your food log.

It's indeed like astrology. Simply thinking about personality traits and thinking through your life and your desires and goals and current situation is already beneficial to take charge and navigate your life.

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johsoletoday at 3:29 PM

Thank you for linking the study.

Some good news from it. If you weigh the food instead of depending on the package size then the labels become much more accurate!!

"Serving size, by weight, exceeded label statements by 1.2% [median] (25th percentile −1.4, 75th percentile 4.3, p=0.10). When differences in serving size were accounted for, metabolizable calories were 6.8 kcal (0.5, 23.5, p=0.0003) or 4.3% (0.2, 13.7, p=0.001) higher than the label statement."

If you look at the table "Deviation of metabolizable calories from label calories" [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3605747/figure/F1/] you'll see that most labels even for service side are pretty good and there are some that are really bad.

If you'll look at one of the worst offenders Tostitos, the label has "Tostitos Tortilla Chips - serving size 24 chips", but chips vary a lot in size, so you could have a huge variance in weight. If instead you weighed them, which I do with my chips, I bet the calories are much closer to the label.

Body composition comes down to routine. I've found found I love to eat, but I pretty much eat the same meals week over week, that makes it extremely easy for me to lose or gain weight depending on my goals.

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strkentoday at 2:57 PM

Realistically the labels are going to be much closer for staples like long-grain Jasmine rice or olive oil, if they're measured by weight.

It's just not that easy to change the nutritional content of a kilogram of a known cultivar of dry rice when it's passed all the standard checks for moisture content, protein content, etc.

ndisntoday at 3:05 PM

20% doesn’t seem so bad?

And the more natural a food is the more inaccurate the results will be because of natural fluctuations. Think the amount of fat a chicken can have. So making this percent stricter will only benefit foods that are all chemicals.

The usual goyslop made of shit ingredients allows for very low tolerances. Mayo has some lab-grade soy oil, lab-grade yolk, and perhaps some lab-grade starch as thickener. Yipeee, we have a tolerance of 0.1% in calories. But how do you reach that level of accuracy with a roast chicken with no added stuff?

nekusartoday at 3:42 PM

Its even weirder.

What has more calories: 1 lb of peanuts, OR 1 lb of peanuts ground into peanut butter?

I cant find the study, but the peanut butter has more calories since its pre-ground and more bioavailable. Peanuts get chomped up but larger pieces still remain and are not captured by the body.

ludicrousdisplatoday at 3:16 PM

how many calories are in strawberry?

stogottoday at 3:10 PM

Does this only apply to calories or to other categories too?