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dylan604yesterday at 6:05 PM5 repliesview on HN

Not so sure about that. Handing an ID to a bouncer at a bar or similar is not logging anything. Mainly it's some big man that you can see gears turning to see if the date is correct and a cursory glance to see if the photo matches. Sophisticated places might have a scanner that does what ever validation it does, but again, it's just another cursory check of the photo. Most of these people really don't care.

A tech company doing scans for validation could actually connect to a state database to verify the ID is legit and is not already being used for a different account. It would then be saved. I don't think real world vs tech world usage of fake IDs are the same at all.


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unselect5917yesterday at 8:24 PM

>Not so sure about that. Handing an ID to a bouncer at a bar or similar is not logging anything. Mainly it's some big man that you can see gears turning to see if the date is correct and a cursory glance to see if the photo matches. Sophisticated places might have a scanner that does what ever validation it does, but again, it's just another cursory check of the photo. Most of these people really don't care.

Not necessarily true. There's a local stripclub that scans and saves the scan to fight chargebacks and the like. It is definitely logging stuff. They've told me that they were going through the logs once and the bartender ended up googling my fullname. We're cool and I didn't care, but this what you said is not a blanket true statement. I trust a physical business that I can visit far more than some ID verification company that is going to get hacked at some point.

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schnitzelstoatyesterday at 6:26 PM

The tech companies care even less than the bouncers do.

They just want a plausible defence should it ever end up in court.

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dparkyesterday at 6:47 PM

How does a tech company calling into a government database to verify your identity maintain your anonymity?

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chimeracoderyesterday at 6:26 PM

> Not so sure about that. Handing an ID to a bouncer at a bar or similar is not logging anything.

> Sophisticated places might have a scanner that does what ever validation it does, but again, it's just another cursory check of the photo.

Many/most bars do scan IDs now. Ostensibly it's to verify that it's real, but they do use those systems to keep a log of everyone who enters.

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aqme28yesterday at 7:46 PM

Well then it’s a good thing my fake id is from a state or foreign government without a checkable database