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Henchman21yesterday at 6:56 PM2 repliesview on HN

Citizens require a lack of surveillance. Full stop.


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zbentleyyesterday at 11:37 PM

Citizens in the developed world have been heavily surveilled for decades. All of them. And the penetration/rate of increase of surveillance has been increasing rapidly.

There are plenty of downsides to that, and I don't agree or think it's beneficial, on balance. But "citizens require a lack of surveillance" is far from the present-day truth, or even remotely practical as an aspiration.

throwaway85825today at 12:06 AM

Citizens require the ability to surveil the watchers. When flock data was FOIAd for the politicians license plates the flock data was exempted from FOIA so fast.