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SeanAndersonyesterday at 3:31 PM4 repliesview on HN

I don't think anyone is questioning all the benefits of using local LLMs. Those are readily apparent.

I just don't believe for an instant that they're anywhere in the same ballpark of capabilities as running Opus or similar. My time is the most valuable resource. Opus would need to be SIGNIFICANTLY more costly and unstable for me to start entertaining local models for day-to-day development.

Perhaps whatever work you're doing makes this trade-off more sensible, but I struggle to see how that could be true. I'm averse to running Sonnet on a large amount of software engineering problems - let alone Qwen.


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m4xyesterday at 11:03 PM

What kind of work are you applying Opus and other LLMs to? I'm quite curious to understand how other people are using these tools.

At the moment neither Opus nor any open weights models seem to be capable of doing complex work, and for less complex work the additional cost of Opus hasn't been worthwhile. This is for reasonably math-heavy computer vision applications.

What LLMs have been useful for is identifying forgotten code that will be affected when planning a change, reviewing changes, and looking up docs/recipes for simple tasks. But Opus doesn't seem necessary for a lot of that.

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regexorcistyesterday at 4:15 PM

I think you'd be surprised, I find that the harness is what makes the real difference. I also prefer to be on the loop, actively guide and review. Local models are definitely much less autonomous as of today so if you need to be churning out code at speed they're probably not for you.

jrm4yesterday at 3:40 PM

But, you know,

Yet.

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slopinthebagyesterday at 4:48 PM

If you know what you're doing and prompt it correctly, local models are great. If you're just vibe coding and relying on the LLM to fill in all the gaps for you and basically build the software for you, yeah you need SOTA to deal with that.