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cermicelliyesterday at 5:44 PM3 repliesview on HN

Finally someone putting in actual human effort to learn something, and not a LLM helped me build X in Y minutes.

There is some hope for humanity after all I suppose.


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hectdevyesterday at 6:57 PM

It's always going to exist. People still build things with hand tools in the year 2026. Let's call it Artisanal Coding.

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LeCompteSftwareyesterday at 8:47 PM

As a longtime F# developer and longtime recipient of STEM academic bullying[1] I refuse to use LLMs in large part because ChatGPT-3.5 was so ridiculously bad and obvious about copy-pasting from F# GitHub repos. I never felt the AGI, I just saw a plagiarism machine whose decorations had fallen off.

Eventually I am sure someone at Microsoft noticed and rang the RLHF alarm, so GPT improved substantially. It seems pretty usable for F#. I am sure some unprincipled F#er is crushing it with agents these days. But I didn't think "oh boy they solved the plagiarism problem, let's go generate some slop!" I thought "oh great, now it's no longer going to be blatantly obvious when ChatGPT plagiarizes." I really don't want to roll a d100, or even a d1000, to completely compromise a core value of mine in in exchange for a productivity benefit. I'll just be slow and jobless, thanks. This is serious: I am getting into solar installations and junk hauling.

[1] The "students don't want to think" problem is much older than LLMs. In 2007 I took a senior-level PDEs class, and almost everyone copied my homework because I was actually motivated to study PDEs, and too psychologically weak to resist those mean lazy math majors. Then it happened again in math grad school! Actually unbelievable. Why are you even in the program?

fleroviumnayesterday at 11:21 PM

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