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aleksiy123yesterday at 7:13 PM6 repliesview on HN

While I think this isn’t great.

Why is the camera there in the first place??

Presumably there are people that have access to it. And if you are demoing software that connects to cameras, then someone gave the sales guy access to those cameras.

I’m also assuming those probably weren’t the only cameras…


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KaiserProyesterday at 7:49 PM

> Why is the camera there in the first place??

I imagine its for security. Ie if there are reports of robbery, you can find who did it. I know its not that popular in the states but its common elsewhere, but with better controls. (well, "better" as in controlled by shitty IoT devices)

I think the thing with flock is just how poorly put together everything is. They are obviously insecure, and the entire network has massive holes in it. Yet its still being rolled out.

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bluGillyesterday at 8:35 PM

Any sane business that has lots of random people coming in will have cameras recording (except in bathrooms/locker rooms). There is too much opportunity for crime, and a camera is cheap. If something happens you pull up the feed from the last month and give the interesting parts to the police; most often you just delete everything after a month. More than one crime has been solved this way.

That said, if there wasn't a crime the camera footage should be deleted.

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rcoderyesterday at 7:49 PM

In many cases the people deploying these cameras have no idea the feeds are being resold to Flock. It’s not like they have a consumer brand and people are saying, “oh yeah, Flock, they’re the license plate camera folks…I definitely want one of those in my locker room.”

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ameliusyesterday at 11:00 PM

> Presumably there are people that have access to it.

Could also be AI.

throw848tjfjyesterday at 8:18 PM

> Why is the camera there in the first place??

I was attacked by "a good dog" and then blamed for provoking the dog (like that is valid excuse for starting an attack). I defended myself, and dog owner joined the attacked together with their dog!

After that, I have cameras everywhere, I even record many interactions on my phone. I refuse to be at mercy of random beasts and their "owners". If people start using leashes and muzzles, I may consider taking down cameras!

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