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threeptsyesterday at 8:09 PM5 repliesview on HN

On an off note, I do not get why moral puritans disparage the general public for listening to AI songs?

If they are "soulless" then they should close their ears rather than trying to maim others.


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OneDeuxTriSeiGoyesterday at 8:20 PM

They are soulless because often they are AI covers of existing songs trying to mimic the original artist so that they get substituted in as replacements for the original with limited realization on the part of the average listener.

Which of course that means the AI covers get the listens and the associated revenue instead of the original artist.

So instead of listening to "System of a Down", you get a cover from the AI artist "System of the Down" and now that you listened to that cover you start getting more covers in your recommended from them and eventually you are getting covers from them instead of from the real band since you started listening to them instead.

And even if it's not that extreme, the listener is getting served these knock off covers with no actual person behind them. If the listeners don't realise that's what's happening it will reflect poorly on the original creator and hurt their listenership (which wouldn't be impacted if shitty AI covers weren't being subbed in).

It even gets to the point that now you have artists who have upcoming albums and AI cover artist bots scrape the song list and upload auto generated "covers" of the unreleased original song to try and capture listens that would go to the original artist while people go to pull their music up prior to, on, and after release day of their new album.

Overwhelmingly AI songs on Spotify are autogenerated slop from bots trying to leech off of actual artists by creating a shitty knock off to skim some cash out of those artists' paycheck. (This is distinct from actual cover artists who at least contribute their own unique human touch to the covers).

If you want to make music and you happen to use AI in the process then whatever but Spotify has a major AI cover/clone problem.

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bjtyesterday at 8:14 PM

The models that make AI songs were trained on real musicians' copyrighted works, without permission.

It's kinda shitty to steal someone's works, then use them to build a machine to also steal their jobs.

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Barrin92yesterday at 8:24 PM

>then they should close their ears rather than trying to maim others

criticism isn't maiming anyone. I don't know about you but I was taught that debating culture is part of a living society. A lot of people think that the human centipede dopamine machine that is "AI art" is a disaster for us and instead of acting like the three monkeys as mature adults we can critique this

the idea that we should "close our ears" is of course itself the very appeal of AI content, it never challenges or complains, that's the appeal of AI music, AI boyfriends and so on.

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emkoemkoyesterday at 8:12 PM

because no one wants to be forced to listen to the slop? some reason spotify is allowing them to dump a lot of ai "music" and then they get played without you knowing

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