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ml_basicsyesterday at 8:34 PM8 repliesview on HN

During my time at university studying pure mathematics I had an interesting experience of doing a challenging sheet of combinatorics problems during a vacation. Every day I attempted one question and got stuck on it. Then the next morning I woke up knowing the solution. It was a recurring thing: this happened every day for about 2 weeks until I had solved all the problems.

For me this a big eye opener about the importance of sleep and relaxed thinking to solve challenging problems.


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MITSardineyesterday at 10:33 PM

In French, there's a saying: "la nuit porte conseil". Roughly translates to "the night advises", and it means it might be better to sleep on it.

I recall my father (also a mathematician, incidentally) often repeating this to me.

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npongratzyesterday at 10:12 PM

That's awesome! I had a somewhat similar experience (shared previously [0]):

> I proved a topology theorem in a dream once.

> Before I went to sleep, my inability to prove it had been bugging me all day long, and I suspected it'd be featured on the next morning's (way too early) final exam for my university course. I solved it in my dream, woke up, wrote on my whiteboard what I remembered and sure enough, it was correct. I worked it a few more times to cram it into my memory before running to my exam.

> To my great delight, the ability to prove that theorem was featured heavily in one of the exam's questions, and helped me do quite well on the exam overall.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40651913

renegade-otteryesterday at 8:38 PM

Yeah, when you are stuck, put away that red bull and step away from the keyboard, kids.

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usernotusedyesterday at 9:56 PM

Interestingly, I observed the same when I was practicing the drums. I would fail multiple times to reproduce a drumming part, sleep on it, and succeed on the first try the day after.

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GuestFAUniverseyesterday at 9:48 PM

Can confirm this level of problem solving.

Had physics problems to solve and can remember to this day when I woke up in the library after I got exhausted from not solving the last one, that my subconscious discovered during sleep that I missed that certain vectors were orthogonal (which was the necessary key insight to solve it).

jvanderbotyesterday at 9:35 PM

I can confirm - I woke up to the resolution to my two hardest problems during PhD. Three, if you count "I should look for this kind of inequality" (which did turn out to exist), but I think that's more of an _idea_ than a solution.

The hard part is paying attention to it. With enough attention your mind will fix it.

nick_yesterday at 8:57 PM

AFAIK this is called sleep consolidation.