alt Hacker NewsTo be fair, to learn to think, you have to learn the language first.
Learning to program without knowing the language is useless and counter-productive.
Of course, this doesn't mean you have to learn 10+ languages first... but you have to learn a real programming language (not a toy one) before you can learn to program.
Edit: * a language
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wanderingmind • today at 2:16 AM
This, we learn natural language like English first before we can use it to express ideas, argue for or against those ideas with evidence. The problem is not teaching a programming language, the problem is stopping there and not teaching how to use it to solve real problems.
jmalicki • today at 1:57 AM
Bullshit.
You need to learn to leetcode in psuedocode first.
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> To be fair, to learn to think, you have to learn the language first.
Which language is the language? A competent programmer can think about programming and reason about programs written in most languages without having to know that particular language intimately (with some exceptions that push outside the normal algorithmic language notation of the Fortran, C, Java, JS, Common Lisp, Rust, Go, etc. family of languages; but those are minority languages and a competent programmer shouldn't need more than a short period of time to become literate, if not expressive, in it).